In the Darwinian egosystem of rock 'n' roll, survival
depends on musical instincts, and they don't come any
keener than those of The Verve Pipe. Since the early 90's,
this formidable alliance of alpha males has thrived by
making music their way, with two indie and two RCA albums
to their credit. Some observers have had trouble
categorizing The Verve Pipe's music, mostly because the
band itself has steadfastly refused to be pinned down.
However, fans have long understood what The Verve Pipe is
all about: great songs performed from the heart. That same
prescription holds true on UNDERNEATH, the band's new RCA
album, and their most upbeat to date.
Produced by Adam Schlesinger (Fountains of Wayne, Ivy),
UNDERNEATH marks the latest step in the band's personal
evolut More...
Review about The Verve Pipe back and white | Reviewer: ethan
------ About the song Colorful performed by The Verve Pipe
I know I can be colorful
I know I can be gray
But I know this loser's living fortunate
Cause I know you will love me either way...very ironic... everyday i play this song since high school until now...
Amaaaazzing | Reviewer: Britney
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
I'm a freshmen, & this song makes me feel amazing. My friend played it for me today in study hall, and I couldn't stop listening to it. It makes me feel as if people actually have gone through the same things as I and it speaks to me. It's one of those tings you can't describe. :-)
Abortion | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
Its a beautiful song but I never thought that this song was about the regretful abortion. I am complete against it and I believe if you are old enough to have sex and you are old enough to take care of a child. As of right now i'm a 21 year old virgin and I'm waiting on marrage
Just a great song | Reviewer: RickyB
------ About the song Colorful performed by The Verve Pipe
Never knew anything by The Verve Pipe but loved this song at the end of Rock Star. Finally looked it up on the Internet last week and have since bought two Verve Pipe CDs. Awesome, song; awesome band.
Fantastic song | Reviewer: nightbloom
------ About the song Miles Away performed by The Verve Pipe
This is a completely underrated and under appreciated song. I heard it on Pandora Radio and looked it up online. I ended up buying the album, even through it's quite dated but this song still shines for me. It's got a melody that really sticks and it really reflects the subject matter of the song. The Verve Pipe are falsely labeled as "One Hit Wonder"s because of the success of The Freshman but it's too bad the rest of their body of work never really got as much exposure as it deserved and this song is a great example.
i copied this off another website, but this is the real meaning! :) ENJOYY!!! | Reviewer: Sammy
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
In 2001, Brian Vander Ark explained what the song means to him on Verve Pipe's bulletin boards:
"When I was young I knew everything" - We all think we know everything at a young age. I thought I did. I realize I didn't know sh*t until I was 36.
"And she, a Punk who rarely took advice" - How many people do we know like that?
"Now I'm guilt-stricken, sobbing, with my head on the floor" - Something happened that caused this reaction, but I wouldn't want to give that away this early in the song, so let's throw in an some ambiguity:
"Stop a baby's breath, and a shoe full of rice, no" - First of all, forget the NO. Stop a baby's breath is just that. Abort the baby. A shoe full of rice is a result of a wedding. So - stop a baby's breath AND then you stop a wedding. She's pregnant, get her to abort, and then there's no wedding. And you know what?
"I can't be held responsible, cause she was touching her face" - When I wrote this song, The Divinyls had a song out called 'I Touch Myself.' The TV was on, she was touching her face in the video. Very sexy. So, I can't be held responsible because she was trying to be sexy, trying to seduce me, etc.
"I won't be held responsible, she fell in love in the first place" - I didn't tell her to fall in love.
"For the life of me, I cannot remember what made us think that we were wise, and we'd never compromise" - What was I thinking back then? Who am I to put a girl though that? Why was I unable to compromise? Guilty feelings.
"For the life of me, I cannot believe we'd ever die for these sins, we were merely freshmen" - We were just kids, let it go, we all make mistakes, etc.
"My best friend took a week's vacation to forget her" - He needed to get away because of what happened.
"His girl took a week's worth of Valium and slept" - This is why this song is not that strong literally - it's confusing. HIS girl is MY girl. the same girl that had the abortion has now killed herself.
"Now he's guilt-stricken, sobbing with his head on the floor, thinks about her now and how he never really wept he says" - He has the same guilty feelings that I do about the abortion and death.
"We tried to wash our hands of all of this, we never talk of our lacking relationships" - We rarely spoke after the incident - we just tried to forget it. We never spoke of her or the fact that we can't have a decent relationship with anyone since then.
"We fell through the ice when we tried not to slip" - No matter how careful you might be, there are other perils out there.
The girl is real, the abortion is real. the death is not. it's poetic license to make the story more interesting.
Elizabeth-3Scott | Reviewer: Elizabeth
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
i've only just heard this song and its only because i came across it when on youtube. I found a one tree hill version. I love the song even though its sad.
i've read everyone elses comments and they're all really deep and they all have a part of the song with them. I dont and I all I can say is about watching it on one tree hill. Haley and Nathan are together and so is Brooke and Lucas (before no ass peyton came along, again and stole him off Brooke) anyways Haley is in a car accident and I think she may be pregnant as well but im not sure its not mentioned in the story. she dies and then brooke od's because she misses haley. lucas and nathan blame themselves and then they're both in a car crash. and in the end the two couples reunite and its so sad but happy. (i can go very emotional watching sad things like that honestly.)
anyways sum up, love the song, love the lyrics, love one tree hill, so on team brucas and peyton can go brooke herself because i dont care if she's married lucas and had a daughter with him he and brooke were always meant to be!
Elizabeth-Isobella Grace xx
this song never gets old | Reviewer: Charlie
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
I have got to say when this song first hit the main stream I fell in love with the sheer emotion it brought up. I played the song for the entire road trip from alabama to chicago. Driving down the interstate with this song on repeat, singing as loud as I could the whole way. The other day I found it on the juke box at a local bar and I played it somewhat skeptical thinking I was the only one that was gonna be singing it to myself. Before I knew it the entire bar was singing aloud with their own emotional stories of when this song was a hit. It really suprised me that to a person everyone loved it then and still does. It truely is a beautiful song and the band really knocked it out of the park.
yup | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song la la performed by The Verve Pipe
definitly the same song ; ) are you sure you are listning to the Verve Pipe? not really completely the lyrics i hear in the song, but minor differences only.
(Never heared 'she f*** hates me' in it btw,
there's a song by puddle of mud that goes that way?)
Jannie
Okay | Reviewer: LMcJ
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
People are right. This song is about death. But I remember loving it as a little girl. Always reminding me of time travel. Anyways it's became my high school theme song! Well really only the one line. "We never talked of our lack in relationships" Every time I hear that part I think of us sitting in the grass laughing and how we all know each other isn't happy being single, but we don't need to bring that up in this moment.
meaning | Reviewer: steve
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
It was written by Brian Vander Ark. It told the story of a guy whose girlfriend had committed suicide. At the height of the The Freshman success, Vander Ark told reporters that the song was based on bits and pieces of a conversation he'd overheard at a party. Now he admits that the song was more personal than he previously led the public to believe, and that his actions in covering the truth were cowardly. "It happened to me," he said, "but I didn't want to expose myself in that way, especially without a safety net. It's funny because The Freshmen was written about a situation that had happened to me and I said it was about somebody else," Vander Ark says."I was feeling guilty about the success of The Freshman, because it came from exploiting a girlfriend who committed suicide. So, I thought, Okay, I'm successful now because I wrote a song about this. That's basically exploitation.Then I thought, screw it. Because I wrote this song, I made so many people happy and so many people could identify. It was therapy for those people. So, I thought, I'm a jerk but I want to be a hero."
i think... | Reviewer: dayna
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
So im only 14 soo im going through highschool right now as a freshmen and everyuday i listen to this song so many time like at least 10 a day and in the car with my mom and every time i listen to it i think of something new about it..
I really think this song was created to make you realize whats going on in your life i dont think it has a actual meaning i think it wanted you to put it in your life and make it about you and fill in the blanks
my view | Reviewer: coldstarvingnauseia
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
warning dont read this if its gonna make you depressed...
Reminds me of the winter from hell I just had, still not sure I'm done climbing out of dantes inferno yet though.
And I take the meaning Freshmen literally but college, not highschool, lies, anger, death, authority, denial, and deliverance (hopefully). The only question that remains is will we ever learn?
From my point of view, I've always seen adults as cold submissive selfish people who only care about their own agenda, and if this is where I'm headed, take me back to 10 years ago or please just take me now because it hurts too much to wake up in the morning knowing this is the result, and is far too disturbing to actually sleep.
My intepretation is based on my life specifically this middle point and the expression on his face of guilt sadness and disbelief is exactly how I feel knowing that right now its quite possible nothing will ever get better. Happiness elludes me.
THERE IS NO BEST FRIEND | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
There is no "best friend". The "best friend" is the person himself, who is trying to distance himself from the whole incident, telling it like it happened to "a friend he knew'. Eventually, he fails to hold it up and owns it (notice that this is the only time he talked about another person, the rest of the lyrics is full of "I") because of the immeasurable guilt.
Freshmen here refers to him and the girl, the word "freshmen" being a metaphor for immaturity.
Abortion...? What's more... | Reviewer: Paul
------ About the song freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
An interesting element in the song is that these two guys in it seem so detached from the responsibility they have towards these girls they become intimately engaged with.
Everyone wants to have a solid friend, girlfriend or boyfriend who will stick with them through thick and thin; be there when we most need them, but most never want to make the sacrifice for others. Pathetic really...
Abortion. What's more is... | Reviewer: Paul
------ About the song freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
An interesting element in the song is that guys seem so detached from the responsibility they have towards these girls they become intimately engaged with.
Everyone wants to have a solid friend, girlfriend or boyfriend who will stick with them through thick and thin; be there when we most need them, but most never want to make that sacrifice for others.
Pathetic really...
Abortion? | Reviewer: Hillary
------ About the song freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
Okay, first I must admit that I might be being naive but I don't understand how he's singing about abortion.
But since I read the other reviews I wanted to put in my take, even if it changes just one person's view on abortion.
Making abortion illegal wouldn't help anyone, born or unborn. Making it illegal wouldn't stop people from having abortions, it would make them have one illegaly, where they would most likely hurt themselves more then if it was legal.
If your friend has had one, don't try to make them feel guilty, because you don't have any idea what they are going through so your opinion is biased by ignorance.
When people say abortions put the women through hell, I don't think they realize that there would be a whole other hell if they would have had the baby, especially if they are a teenager.
Yes, there is always adoption but your body shouldn't have to be put through the experience of birth when it hasn't even fully developed yet.
Also, the arguement of when life begins is pointless, because everyone has their own opinion on when life starts and that will never change.
It's funny because so many who people care so much about life before birth, don't give a shit about life AFTER birth. This world is already overpopulated.
Think about it.
Would the baby AND the mother benefit or hurt from the birth?
Dreams | Reviewer: Amanda
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
Great song. Hadn't heard it in years and it was in a dream I had. The next night this dude on guitar played it in a local bar here in Norman. So I was looking up the lyrics and thought it was interesting that all these years I thought the line "I can't believe we'd ever die for these sins" was actually "I can't believe we'd ever doubt 40 cents" and I thought he was talking about a condom. This will forever remain a tragic but intriguing song to me.
ca | Reviewer: Anonymous
------ About the song freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
i didnt realise what this song was about til i read other pple's reaview. i just heard it for the first time a couple of days ago and loved it. i believe that abortion is wrong and i wld never support my friends to get one. it's not just about them anymore. fact is, there is a life inside of them that is not being given a chance to live like you and i.
Let's hash this out. | Reviewer: Cassben
------ About the song the freshmen performed by The Verve Pipe
This is how I see it. Two guys, two girls. Guy 1 knocked up his/some girl and pushed for an abortion to avoid marriage and still feels guilty/horrible about it. His best friend now: The guilt that cripples and surrounds him concerning girl#2 -- his girlfriend is two-fold. Clearly girl#2 was a mess. She had many emotional issues that were ignored or made light of and she eventually committed suicide. He feels guilty because he did not help her, or maybe did not see her problems or concerns as so terrible. He wished that he had "saved" or "fixed" (a la Coldplay) her. He was useless. What also bugs him is that although he took a week off to mourn/forget her,in all that time he could no bring himself to cry to express grief. He spent that time angry at her -- resentful, instead. Sometimes I think it is not that he took a week off to mourn her, but that he took some time off their relationship -- sorta broke up with her and that drove the messed up girl to kill herself. Either way his guilt stms from not helping her and from being more angry at her for commiting suicide than sorry she was gone at the time.
Yes, they were both young and immature at the time of these events but the events still haunt them and the residual guilt and fear of messing up again affects their ability to have lasting,loving, deeply satisfying and highly connected relationships. These are their demons and they never really or deeply talk about how these events still hurt them, though they suspect they are each suffering because of how they treated these past girlfriends. Maybe even when they do talk about the girls, they use the same blame shifting language they did when they were "freshmen". They blame the girls: "Why did she make me want her? Why did she make me fall for her? Why is she still ruining my life?! It's not my fault!"
Okay. Could be the same girl. The guy#1 -- the guy singing don't seem to have been so into the girl he convinced to have an abortion. Still, why he was afraid he's have to marry her doesn't gel unless of some devout beliefs or familial pressure. And since she rarely took advice but gave in to an abortion, she could be the same messed up girl who commited suicide. She didn't handle guilt well -- emotionally frail. Why? Her guy, guy #2 said they should spend time apart (and see other people? he-he) and so she hooked up with guy #1 during the vacation? Nahhh. It takes longer than that to know/think you are pregnant. And guy#1 does not seem guilty over sleeping ith his best friend's girl. The separate girls make sense.
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